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LESSONS FROM THE WIN ROOM - EPISODE 1

The hardest part of transformation isn't knowing what to do.

It's getting people to do it.

Shipleywins' Sam Singh chats with Forbes McKay, who has spent more than 30 years in business development & led a multi-year transformation of how CGI UK approaches bidding & client work.

In the first Lessons from the Win Room, he gets into what actually made that transformation work – and what didn't.

Sam Singh, Managing Partner at Shipleywins and host of Lessons from the Win Room

Hosted bySam SinghManaging Partner, Shipleywins

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The guest

Forbes McKay

VP Consulting Services, CGI

More than 30 years in business development, from writing proposals on paper to leading major business development transformation.

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Three questions from the conversation

Choose the moment that matters most.

Clip 01 — The knowing-doing gapWatch the clip

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You know what good looks like. So why isn't it happening?

Forbes on the knowing-doing gap, and why understanding the theory is rarely the hardest part of transformation.

Most commercial teams can already describe a better way to pursue work. The distance between that description and daily behaviour is where transformation is actually won or lost.

Clip 02 — Buy-in without a mandateWatch the clip

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Can business development transformation really happen from the bottom up?

How CGI created initial buy-in without making the approach mandatory, and built internal advocates and coaches who carried it further than any policy could.

And: where bottom-up transformation eventually reaches its limits.

Clip 03 — Artificial flavouringWatch the clip

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Where should AI stop and humans take over?

Forbes' analogy: AI-generated proposal content can be like artificial flavouring – convincing, but not quite the real thing when a client is deciding whether they trust you.

Where CGI is finding genuine value from AI, and where it deliberately keeps humans in the loop.

Five lessons from the Win Room

What three decades taught Forbes McKay

The full conversation

There's considerably more to the conversation.

Forbes talks candidly about the realities of changing business development behaviour at scale, what CGI learned along the way, and how AI is beginning to change proposal development.

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